Interview and Photo of Alice Clover, By Victoria Dawe

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The amazingly talented photographer, Victoria Dawe, recently approached me with a fantastic idea for a collaboration. 

Victoria wanted to use her camera for good, and raise the visibility of female founders within the Thrive Community. Victoria proposed taking portrait photos of a selection of founders as well as carrying out an interview with them to capture their story.

I am delighted to share with you the first portrait and interview which Victoria has done with best-selling children’s book author - Alice Clover.

Thank you Victoria for this brilliant opportunity to collaborate with you! I look forward to seeing this collection develop over time.

Interview with Alice Clover, Author of ‘Girls Love to Fart’

I am a children's writer with a difference because I am set on challenging the current narrative around how we gender our children and expect them to behave. All human beings have natural bodily functions, which keep us well and healthy, but it is a common response within society to tell girls that they are wrong for doing so. I want to encourage body confidence and positivity through my work, so that our children can grow up loving themselves and their bodies. 

What did you want to be when you were a child? 

I always wanted to work with children and that's pretty much what I've done since I was 15. I love being with children - the way they think about things is so fun, and I feel very privileged that I'm able to spend as much time as possible with my daughters.

With my writing, I can work with children in a different capacity because I got a bit fed up after a while of working in nurseries and schools. I wanted to do it in my own way, rather than someone else's.

Do you have a quote or saying that inspires or motivates you? 

I don't really have anything specific, but I think one along the lines of, ‘If you really believe in your dreams and your goals, then you can achieve anything’.

What does success mean to you?

I used to think it was about having lots of money and being in a powerful job, but actually I think it's about happiness and contentment. Some days, I get frustrated at the fact that there's still so much that I want to do and everything seems to take time; But when I look back and think of how much I've achieved, especially with my business, I've achieved such a lot in the past three years.

Also, I was messaging someone on Instagram the other day. She put a book up that I liked the title of. It was called ‘Powerful Bitches’. I thought it was quite an amusing title, so I messaged her and left a comment saying, ‘Oh, let me know what you think of this book and if it's any good, then I might get myself a copy’. She private messaged me, and said that she had two other recommendations of books for me. So, we were messaging each other, and she said that she felt slightly starstruck when I started following her because of my success with my book. It still feels weird if people say things like that because I know the book has done really well, but I still feel like me. I don't feel like I'm this kind of superstar anything.

Who inspires you and why?

With my style of writing, I've always been inspired by Roald Dahl - his writing is exactly like my sense of humour. I really find him funny. Regarding my ethics, I've always been hugely drawn to Martin Luther King and Emmeline Pankhurst, and all the women and men who have fought hard to get us to where we are today.

What was the best advice you were given when you were starting your business?

The best advice would be to keep going. I had so many people saying to me that with writing I wasn't going to get anywhere. It was always going to be difficult, but I feel like there were other people who really believed and supported me through it. I don't know if it's necessarily advice, but they were there supporting me, and have never stopped supporting me.

What is unique about the service you provide? 

I suppose there's not many children's writers who dress up in whoopee cushions and read books about girls being proud of farting!

What accomplishments are you proudest of?

I'm proud - very, very proud - of my book ‘Girls Love to Fart’. I feel like it's been a massive achievement, and completely blows me away all the time. We have over 800 reviews on Amazon at the moment!

I'm trying to find ways of doing extra promotional posts because, otherwise, I feel like I have to have a good reason to promote the book, which makes people get a bit fed up and less responsive when you promote the same thing. Often, when I've reached a milestone, I will write an inspiring post to encourage writers who feel like they're not getting anywhere to keep going and never give up. It's been a fantastic journey so far.

What do you feel has driven your success?

The message behind what I do is my biggest driving force. I really, really want as many people to get that message as possible, so that we can truly change the narrative about how we treat women and girls, and our concepts of their bodies. I want to educate people on the importance of respecting women and girls - not expecting them to be these fluffy pink, well-behaved, passive, silent and ‘ladylike' beings - because all of our voices should be heard. The term 'ladylike' is something that really grates on me, and I think, if we can help educate the children of this wonderful world, then we can completely change people’s perceptions for generations to come.

Do you have any start-up advice to share?

Yes - make sure you know who your target audience is.

If you would like to contact Alice Clover, email her at alicecloverstories@gmail.com or visit her website: https://www.alicecloverstories.com 

To see Victoria Dawe's portfolio of work, visit her website: https://www.victoriadawephotography.com